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Obituary for Euguene Herbstritt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch on Januray 9th, 1996
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, Missouri) - 09 Jan 1996 Tue p10
HERBSTRITT, EUGENE J., born March 27, 1910, passed away Jan. 7, 1996, beloved husband of the late Mildred Herbstritt (nee Hance), beloved father of Wayne L. Herbstritt, our dear friend.
Private services were held on Mon., Jan 8. A SERVICE OF HOFFMEISTER BEIDERWIEDEN MORTUARY.
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Many children, my father included, grandchildren and, perhaps, if curiosity has been passed along, great grandchildren, of Joseph and Elizabeth Lavey Herbstrit, have wondered what happened to the first son of Joseph & Elizabeth Herbstritt.
Eugene Herbstritt was born 27 March 1910 Benzinger Township, Elk County, PA.
Before Joseph and Betty moved the family to Sweden Township, Potter County, PA, in 1929, Eugene left St Marys, PA to pursue a boxing career in Cleveland, Ohio. This, at least, was the Herbstritt family lore. Eugene was never seen nor heard from again by any of the family. Conjecture reigned among the brothers and sisters of Eugene. One thought was, that the boxing world had entangled Eugene in the world of mobsters and racketeers and that his lack of any kind of communication with his family, most likely meant Eugene had met his demise in some backstreet alley.
A boxing career may have, indeed, been Eugene's intention but the 1940 United States Federal Census record for Cleveland, Ohio, shows that Eugene was living in Cleveland, and was the the head of the household with
- his wife, Frances,
- son, Robert and
- daughter, Dorothea.
Boxing was not listed as Eugene's profession.
Porter in a hotel was listed on the census record for Eugene's occupation, with a yearly income of $832. Eugune may have been boxing, but not for any reported income.
A few years later Eugene remarried; the reason for his first marriage ending is unknown. He had married a woman named Mildred Hance and they were living in St Louis, Missouri.
Eugene passed away at the age of 85 in St Louis on January 7, 1996.
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It has never felt like a close knit family to me, so I'm not surprised. I definitely have 1st cousins, probably around Cleveland, OH and St Louis, MO.
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- St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, Missouri) - 09 Jan 1996 Tue p10
HERBSTRITT, EUGENE J., born March 27, 1910, passed away Jan. 7, 1996, beloved husband of the late Mildred Herbstritt (nee Hance), beloved father of Wayne L. Herbstritt, our dear friend.
Private services were held on Mon., Jan 8. A SERVICE OF HOFFMEISTER BEIDERWIEDEN MORTUARY.
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Obituary for Euguene Herbstritt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch on Januray 9th, 1996
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Richard on horseback - his younger sister, Verna behind him - Joseph holding her and Richard's oldest brother, Eugene Herbstritt holding the reins. Eugene was an amateur boxer. Based on the estimated age of Richard, this picture would have been taken in St Mary's, PA
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Richard on horseback - his younger sister, Verna behind him - Joseph holding her and Richard's oldest brother, Eugene Herbstritt holding the reins. Eugene was an amateur boxer. Based on the estimated age of Richard, this picture would… |
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9 Dec 1932 |
Coudersport, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA |
| At the K. of C. Hall, boxing: Young Herbstreet v Norval Haskins, Coudersport, in boxing bout, 09 December 1932 at the K. of C. Hall. Title fight is Coudersport's own Irvin Davis v Kid Kroh of Bradford. |
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Irvin Davis, Amateur Champion of Potter County to Battle Kid Kroh, Bradford, Big Boxing Card Tomorrow
The Potter Enterprise
Coudersport, Pennsylvania •
Thu, Dec 8, 1932 p1
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• DEMOCRATIC CLUB MEET
A meeting of the Potter County Women's Democratic Club was held at the home of Miss Marion Stone, Wednesday afternoon. After the meeting a lunch was served by the hostess.
BIG BOXING CARD TOMORROW NIGHT
Irvin Davis, Amateur Champion of County, to Battle Kid Kroh, Fast Bradford Man.
Those who enjoy the manly art of self-defense will have an opportunity to witness some fast bouts at the K. of C. hall tomorrow evening. While there are to be seven three-round fights in terest centers on the encounter sched uled between Irvin Davis of Coudersport and Kid Kroh of Bradford. Davis and Kroh have met before, in fact
IRVIN DAVIS
twice they have come together in the squared ring and both times Kroh was given the decision. However, those contests were months ago and in the meantime Davis has been constantly training and gaining experience. His friends are confident he will lay Kroh away before the bell announces the finish of the third period of the battle. In all his recent battles Davis has won easily and nearly all have been by the K. O. route. No doubt Kroh's friends from Bradford will be here in force to witness this scrap, and it is certain Davis will have a large force of backers out to see Kroh put away.
The other battlers on the card make up a very cosmopolitan group Poles, Indians, Irish, Swedes and other nationalities being represented. They come from DuBois, Killbuck, Warren, Sabinsville, Port Allegany and several other cities and towns.
One other Coudersport lad will appear in the ring. Norval Haskins will battle Young Herbstreet of Sweden Valley. While these boys are lighter and have had less experience they will mix fisticuffs in a fast and furious manner. The full card is given In the sports news on page 7 of this paper.
TWO SPIKE BUCKS KILLED J. Edgar Gravenstine, Hatsboro, Pa., and J. Warren Snavely, Lititz, Pa., have each killed spike bucks this season.
They each reported the kill and payed $100 fine. Under the circumstances the game official has recommended that one-half the fines paid be returned..
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13 March 2024 ·
An almost familiar name from Sweden Valley, Young Herbstreet v Norval Haskins, Coudersport, in boxing bout, 09 December 1932 at the K. of C. Hall. Title fight is Coudersport's own Irvin Davis v Kid Kroh of Bradford. I'm actually not familiar with any of these lads.
Larry Herbstritt Was 'Young Herbstreet' a fight name? Do you know who he was?
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This is very interesting. I'm sure my father's family was the only one with the Herbstritt name in all of Potter County in 1936. My father told me his older brother, Eugene, was an amatuer boxer. Eugene was born in 1910, so he was 26 at the time of this fight. My father was 16, the youngest boy in the family. And I've been told by older men who knew my father as a young man, that he was an exceptional fighter, two of his contemporaries told me "I never saw him lose a fight" no matter what size the guy was who challenged him. But my father never said anything about him being a boxer, but he did say his older brother was. I don't know about the "Young" moniker.
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Whichever son of Joseph & Elizabeth Lavey Herbstritt was the "Young Herbstreet" mentioned in this newspaper article, they all have a boxing ancestry, not on the Herbstritt side, but on their mother's side. Elizabeth Lavey was the daughter of Anna Essex, daughter of two first cousins, each sharing the same grandfather, John Figg. Almost all of John Figg's sons were obsessed with fighting, and boxing in particular. There's reasonable speculation that John's grandfather was James Figg, an English prizefighter. By the end of his career, James Figg was a recognisable and famous person in London. Royalty, aristocrats, politicians, writers, artists, and actors attended his fights, and in autumn 1729, Figg was made gate-keeper to upper St James's Park by the Earl of Essex. Figg was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1992 and the Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame in 2010. A blue plaque dedicated to him was unveiled at The James Figg Pub (formerly The Greyhound Inn), Cornmarket, Thame, on 14 April 2011. Because of the 1st cousin marriage, the Figg DNA was doubled in the Herbstritt ancestry.
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• DEMOCRATIC CLUB MEET
A meeting of the Potter County Women's Democratic Club was held at the home of Miss Marion Stone, Wednesday… |
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Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA |
| Hotel Porter, per 1940 census record, annual income *832. |
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10 hrs · 23 July 2018
Obituary for Euguene Herbstritt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch on Januray 9th, 1996
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, Missouri) - 09 Jan 1996 Tue p10
HERBSTRITT, EUGENE J., born March 27, 1910, passed away Jan. 7, 1996, beloved husband of the late Mildred Herbstritt (nee Hance), beloved father of Wayne L. Herbstritt, our dear friend.
Private services were held on Mon., Jan 8. A SERVICE OF HOFFMEISTER BEIDERWIEDEN MORTUARY.
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?Larry Herbstritt?
to Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants
10 hrs · 24 July 2018
Many children, my father included, grandchildren and, perhaps, if curiosity has been passed along, great grandchildren, of Joseph and Elizabeth Lavey Herbstrit, have wondered what happened to the first son of Joseph & Elizabeth Herbstritt.
Eugene Herbstritt was born 27 March 1910 Benzinger Township, Elk County, PA.
Before Joseph and Betty moved the family to Sweden Township, Potter County, PA, in 1929, Eugene left St Marys, PA to pursue a boxing career in Cleveland, Ohio. This, at least, was the Herbstritt family lore. Eugene was never seen nor heard from again by any of the family. Conjecture reigned among the brothers and sisters of Eugene. One thought was, that the boxing world had entangled Eugene in the world of mobsters and racketeers and that his lack of any kind of communication with his family, most likely meant Eugene had met his demise in some backstreet alley.
A boxing career may have, indeed, been Eugene's intention but the 1940 United States Federal Census record for Cleveland, Ohio, shows that Eugene was living in Cleveland, and was the the head of the household with
- his wife, Frances,
- son, Robert and
- daughter, Dorothea.
Boxing was not listed as Eugene's profession.
Porter in a hotel was listed on the census record for Eugene's occupation, with a yearly income of $832. Eugune may have been boxing, but not for any reported income.
A few years later Eugene remarried; the reason for his first marriage ending is unknown. He had married a woman named Mildred Hance and they were living in St Louis, Missouri.
Eugene passed away at the age of 85 in St Louis on January 7, 1996.
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Are you tempted to contact his children or grandchildren to learn more? I wonder why he never contacted his family.
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It has never felt like a close knit family to me, so I'm not surprised. I definitely have 1st cousins, probably around Cleveland, OH and St Louis, MO.
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7 Jan 1996 |
St Louis, Missouri, USA [1] |
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10 hrs · 23 July 2018
Obituary for Euguene Herbstritt in the St Louis Post-Dispatch on Januray 9th, 1996
1John Christy Wetzel
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, Missouri) - 09 Jan 1996 Tue p10
HERBSTRITT, EUGENE J., born March 27, 1910, passed away Jan. 7, 1996, beloved husband of the late Mildred Herbstritt (nee Hance), beloved father of Wayne L. Herbstritt, our dear friend.
Private services were held on Mon., Jan 8. A SERVICE OF HOFFMEISTER BEIDERWIEDEN MORTUARY.
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?Larry Herbstritt?
to Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants
10 hrs · 24 July 2018
Many children, my father included, grandchildren and, perhaps, if curiosity has been passed along, great grandchildren, of Joseph and Elizabeth Lavey Herbstrit, have wondered what happened to the first son of Joseph & Elizabeth Herbstritt.
Eugene Herbstritt was born 27 March 1910 Benzinger Township, Elk County, PA.
Before Joseph and Betty moved the family to Sweden Township, Potter County, PA, in 1929, Eugene left St Marys, PA to pursue a boxing career in Cleveland, Ohio. This, at least, was the Herbstritt family lore. Eugene was never seen nor heard from again by any of the family. Conjecture reigned among the brothers and sisters of Eugene. One thought was, that the boxing world had entangled Eugene in the world of mobsters and racketeers and that his lack of any kind of communication with his family, most likely meant Eugene had met his demise in some backstreet alley.
A boxing career may have, indeed, been Eugene's intention but the 1940 United States Federal Census record for Cleveland, Ohio, shows that Eugene was living in Cleveland, and was the the head of the household with
- his wife, Frances,
- son, Robert and
- daughter, Dorothea.
Boxing was not listed as Eugene's profession.
Porter in a hotel was listed on the census record for Eugene's occupation, with a yearly income of $832. Eugune may have been boxing, but not for any reported income.
A few years later Eugene remarried; the reason for his first marriage ending is unknown. He had married a woman named Mildred Hance and they were living in St Louis, Missouri.
Eugene passed away at the age of 85 in St Louis on January 7, 1996.
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I49597 |
WetzelFANcestry |
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Herbstritt, Joseph Christian, b. 27 Nov 1877, Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA d. 13 Nov 1944, Austin, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 66 years) |
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natural |
| Mother |
Lavey, Elizabeth Ann, b. 1 Mar 1882, Hodgenville, Larue, Kentucky, USA d. 18 Jan 1984, Coudersport, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 101 years) |
| Relationship |
natural |
| Marriage |
1908 |
Pennsylvania, USA [1] |
| headstone joint |
Saint Eulalias Cemetery, Eulalia, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA |
| died 40 years apart. (1944 & 1984) |
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Joseph C Herbstritt
Birth: Nov. 27, 1877
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: Nov. 13, 1944
Son of Peter Herbstritt and Mary Worthman..
Married Elizabeth Lovey.. 8 children.
his father served in the Civil War and 4 of his sons served in WW II
Family links:
Parents: Peter Herbstritt (1845 - 1902)
Elizabeth A Lavey Herbstritt (1882 - 1937)
Children: Alphonsus G Herbstritt (1912 - 1976)*
Lewis F Herbstritt (1916 - 1997)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Saint Eulalias Cemetery
Potter County, Pennsylvania, USA
Created by: Chris Hobson
Record added: Jul 01, 2014
Find A Grave Memorial# 132147853
Monument to Joseph Herbstritt and his wife Elizabeth
Added by: Chris Hobson
7/06/2014
Corrected 20180210, ancestry.com Larry Herbstritt see below
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Joseph C Herbstritt Birth: Nov. 27, 1877 Pennsylvania, USA Death: Nov. 13, 1944
Son of Peter Herbstritt and Mary Worthman..
Married Elizabeth Lavey.. 8 children. his father served in the Civil War and 4 of his sons served in WW II Family links:
Parents: Peter Herbstritt (1845 - 1902)
and Elizabeth A Lavey Herbstritt [1882 - 1984 (corrected)]
Children: Alphonsus G Herbstritt (1912 - 1976)* Lewis F Herbstritt (1916 - 1997)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Saint Eulalias Cemetery Potter County, Pennsylvania, USA Created by: Chris Hobson Record added: Jul 01, 2014 Find A Grave Memorial# 132147853 Monument to Joseph Herbstritt and his wife Elizabeth Added by: Chris Hobson 7/06/2014
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LARRY HERBSTRITT Corrections to the above: Peter Herbstritt married Mary Wortman -
Elizabeth Ann Lavey was born in 1882 and died in 1984
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wetzupdoc1 Thanks, Larry. What is Mary Wortman -
? I'll correct in my working tree; unfortunately it will take a while to make it to the on-line, because I'm not syncing, just replacing periodically. I guess I got this from Chris Hobson, findagrave, where I can offer the correction.
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Joseph C Herbstritt
Birth: Nov. 27, 1877
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: Nov. 13, 1944
Son of Peter Herbstritt and Mary Worthman..
Married Elizabeth Lovey.. 8 children.
his father served in the Civil War and 4 of his sons served in WW II
Family links:
Parents: Peter Herbstritt (1845 - 1902)
Elizabeth A Lavey Herbstritt (1882 -… |
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Hodgenville, Larue, Kentucky, USA [2] |
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Group Sheet | Family Chart |
1910 - 1996 (85 years)
