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Wilcox, Estelle etal FB211117CindyPalmer

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Cindy Palmer
November 17, 2021 · FB

I just put this (and a closeup) in the "dating photos--genealogy" group--there sure are some experts on clothing styles there!--and thought I'd share it with you all too. I really appreciate Susan Emily Gates passing along some photos to me this past weekend! Scanning made the photo much crisper--I can now tell that the standing woman is for sure Estelle Wilcox, my great-grandmother. The man on the left is possibly her father, Thomas Fisher Wilcox, but I am only about 50% sure. I don't know who the sitting woman is.

I wonder if the man on the right is her first husband, Frederick Roscoe Lown, who was quite a wastrel. She married him in 1896 and divorced him in 1901 and took back her maiden name for herself and my grandfather. I have seen no other photos of him.

I am pretty sure this was at Rock City Park which is between Olean, NY, where they lived some of their lives, and Bradford, PA. Written in pencil on the back is Wiley (?) Bradford PA, which I am thinking was the photographer. I am going to try to look him up, and I am going to run the photo by Rock City Park too.

Image: four people on a slanted rock ledge under an overhang. From left to right, man in suit and bowler hat, woman in slanted flat hat and leg-o-mutton sleeved long dress, other man dressed similarly to first; the hats of the first two brush the overhang. Sitting in front of them is a woman with a similarly styled dress and a flat hat. Across a large opening there is another rock face which has some graffiti on it right at the edge of the photo. See less

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Susan Budig
I'd like to know more of how they got to that point in the rocks. Also, is that graffiti or writing on the photo itself on the right upper corner?
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Cindy Palmer
The upper left has some light-colored writing that was probably on the negative. The right edge in the center has graffiti that reminds me of the 19th C graffiti in Mammoth Caves in KY that was made by holding candles close to the ceiling so it made soot marks.
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Janet Roberts
Can you imagine scrambling around on those rocks in a full-length dress, corset, huge hat and high-heeled boots? I have some photos somewhere of my mother's family, similarly attired, hiking in Turkey Run State Park in Indiana but dressed as if they had just come out of church.
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Linda Reed
Do you know where they’re at? What state or what country?
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Cindy Palmer
I believe, and am trying to find out, that they were at "Rock City Park" in Western NY near the PA border, which is near where they lived at the time.
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Susan Emily Gates
Cindy Palmer Rock City is 99 and 44/100th % correct because my parents told me clearly that these folks used to go there on outings.
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Susan Emily Gates
I believe I've lots more pictures to go through once my things get released from storage. Stay tuned.
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Cindy Palmer
Susan Emily Gates I am all agog! ????
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Susan Emily Gates
Cindy Palmer PS. I zoomed and used a looking glass. The man on the far left with the stash looks too close in age to be Tom Wilcox and his clothes seem a bit rumpled for Tom's taste. Maybe this man is the other woman's date or husband. I can't wait until we truly figure this one out!
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Cindy Palmer
Susan Emily Gates I think you are right w/r/t age. Probably he is associated with the other woman.
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Cindy Palmer
It doesn't help that just about all the men on both sides of my family seemed to favor those big handlebar mustaches at the time!
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Susan Emily Gates
Good for straining soup.
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Nancy Gates Hackendorn
She is much braver than me! I was born on her birthday 9/19 and my middle name is Estelle.
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Cindy Palmer
I'd have to see the "bigger picture" to know whether I'd dare to climb there--and also whether my bum knee would let me!
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Shannibal Wambat
OMG, that is SO cool! I love the period garb!!????
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Linda Reed
The dresses are definitely Victorian style. The length of the skirts and The mutton sleeves. Queen Victoria died in 1901 (?) but skirts didn’t really shorten till 1909
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